[Writingworkshop] some randoms

[Adam Holland]

No strikes, sure, but joint locks and throws are pretty offensive!
Maybe you need to look into the specific forms of "competitve" poetry, like
the dozens or Turkish adolescent boy stuff.

Incidentally, though, I think a poem about a fight between two martial art
disciplines would be rather good in its own right, w/o being an allegory for
anything.

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Daniel Peters <danieltpeters at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yeah, in essence I wanted to describe a duel between an aikido master and
> a caipoierista and to use the caipoierista as a vehicle for the idea of
> metaphor itself, hence, a metaphor for 'metaphor'.  The thing that got me
> started was how the slaves who came up with caipoeira were using dances to
> disguise the fact that they were training to fight.  The original structure
> was to heavy with ideas and I hadn't found a good use for the aikido master,
> I.E. what part of poetry or a poet could been seen as using anothers force
> against them in the manner of aikido.  In case anyone isn't familiar with
> it, there are no strikes in aikido, its actually called the 'way of
> harmony', purely defensive.  Not really much salvageable in the way of
> original structure of the poem but it was rich with idea's I still have
> scattered around the place in various journals.
>
>
> On 2/20/08, Adam Holland <adam.holland at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am intrigued, but don't think I  fully understand.
> > The poem is about the ur-craft of poetry and its use of metaphor?
> >
> > On Feb 20, 2008 2:06 PM, Daniel Peters <danieltpeters at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Haven't ever got very far with this, maybe someone ideas? I tried to
> > > write a poem a few years ago about poetry itself treating metaphor as
> > > caipoeira, the brazilian dance fighting art.  So if you had to find an
> > > appropriate metaphor FOR metaphor, what would it be?  Does anyone find the
> > > caipoeira angle interesting, effective?  I've since felt that the poem never
> > > made it far not because of the ideas but my own immaturity as a poet.  Just
> > > curious, now that I have the ears of a few more seasoned veterans.......
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